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Charmides first suggests that temperance is a kind of quietness (159b). Socrates talks him out of this, and Charmides proposes that temperance is the same as modesty.
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Charmides (dialogue) - Wikipediaees and tells an attendant to tell Charmides to come and see the physician ("iatros") about an illness that Charmides has complained about. Critias suggests that Socrates pretend to know a cure for a headache to lure the boy over.
<span>Charmides first suggests that sophrosyne is a kind of quietness (159b). Socrates talks him out of this, and Charmides proposes that sophrosyne is the same as modesty. Socrates says this can't be right because Homer (whose authority they both accept on this point) says that modesty is not good for all people, but it is agreed that sophrosyne is (160e)
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